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(@StasaZlatanovic) March 24, 2019. Such things impact ones reputation a lot, and there is no way around it. Its a case of trying to keep everybody amused. Stig Broeckx avoids serious injury after being hit by motorbike. He's probably too much of a joker,not serious enough, but has a 'springy' voice which is good to listen to. So poor . When youre on-site, even though youre there, youre still watching a monitor, Kirby says. Carlton Kirby is one of the successful names in the industry, recently had been a topic of gossip for good and bad reasons. Went for a bike ride earlier today. We have seen far too much of it - near collisions as much as actual collisions over the past few years. After my tweet he at least toned that down. Carlton Kirby pete54 Posts: 488 March 2014 edited October 2019 in Pro race For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? Please enter your email so we can keep you updated with news, features and the latest offers. When all the commentators from different nationalities are inside the same studio room, it is no longer the same as before, remarks Kirby, in a monotonous tone. We caught up with Kirby to learn what is gained for the telecast and what is lost from these two very different broadcasting scenarios. To know that, you simply have to do a Google Search and you will know why. why must us cyclists have to tolerate a commentator who has no knowledge of professional cycling. That is because like most hacks they are too arrogant to do any research and preparation. I don't have anything against him personally, but he doesn't seem to get the basics of the sport. You don't need to be that close to the riders to get snaps. hatcher - are you Harmon's mum? However, a lot of his fans understand this and support him. Whilst im not Carltons biggest fan (prefer Backstead w Harmon) I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. if many people would do this via twitter it could at least give a sign. You have got to be kidding! When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, and the concerns he has, one might want to know how much of that impacts him. Carlton's voice is familiar to fans of Motorsports and Cycling both on British Television and throughout the world. That is common in France and Belgium with a dedicated roving reporter from the race roving all over the peloton and having a chat. At least King Kelly is still there despite Harmon's departure. As just one example, the long list of criticisms he has levelled at Thibault Pinot. 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Strade Bianche 2023, March 4, one-day classic (men's & women's), 78th Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: February 25, 2023, UAE Tour 2023, February 20-26 (women's race February 9-12), O Gran Camio 2023, Spain, February 23-26, 49th Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta (2.Pro) // February 15th - 19th 2023, Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2023 February 26, 196 km (1.Pro). From the Eurosports studios in London, covering the tour is not the same as waiting at the finish line. Yes Harmon is okay and like I said - at least he does his homework on the teams and riders and hangs on every word uttered by Sean Kellyas though he is keen to learn the professional circuit. I could get 20 minutes of commentary out of dinner last night. Thats because the Tours largest broadcasters are staying at home due to the COVID-19 pandemic, rather than broadcasting the race on-site in France. He has poor knowledge and really just annoys everyone. VeloNews: Whats the biggest difference for you when youre commentating on a race from back home, instead of attending the event? Coverage includes enhanced production with access to helicopter, on-board and superslomo cameras. I'm not sure if they have forgotten about the rule, or if it was always just advisory. Nonetheless, one other thing that Kirby believes, sets the very best apart is commitment. Tom Owen vents his fury after cycling blogger highlights verbal abuse on Box Hill, Geraint Thomas returns as domestique in experienced nine-man line-up, Summit finishes dominate opening fortnight with potentially pivotal time trial in final week, The best of the gear that's dropped into RCUK over the last couple of weeks, One carbon bike and two alloy models for 2016 'cross campaign from Chain Reaction Cycles' in-house bike brand. Proper all rounder. I like Kelly just out of respect more than anything. A football match lasts for hardly ninety minutes, a rugby match is over in eighty minutes, whilst a basketball game takes only thirty-eight minutes to finish. He said from the rider's perspective, motorbikes get far too close to the race. Antoine Demoitie was tragically killed by a motorcyle at the age of 25. It is not general knowledge, and it should be. Its windowless. Brian Smith is very good and I feel for him having to listen to Kirby's dumbfounding comments. March 2, 2022 . Colnago is using social media to tease the arrival of its new E64 Performance, which well go out on a limb and guess is the companys attempt to tap into the rapidly growing e-bike market. Painting a verbal picture of a five-hour race is stream of consciousness, and to be able to do that effectively, you just need to be there. Teams have been announced for May's Tour de Yorkshire and the Asda Tour de Yorkshire Women's Race. #GPDenain pic.twitter.com/2DsagK73lS, Wanty-Gobert Cycling Team (@TeamWantyGobert) March 24, 2019. ), there is a thread in the. I had almost no idea what was going on or who was where. Among an awful lot of distractions, as Carlton Kirby explains, commentating on cycling is an arduous process. There is no editing process, except between the brain and the larynx. It's garnering quite a few sarcastic responses on Twitter Yep, I regularly cycle to MacDonalds, get a load of food, then cycle to the off license, get some beer, and then cycle to a lay by or car park and spread it around the place. Partly, of course, that's his job - but if you give it out, you have to take it. I'm constantly berating or pointing out the danger of the motorcycle. There's also his lack of knowledge. pic.twitter.com/bcRWeK1p3o, just merder. Kirby has the benefit of what he calls the ultimate pass the presence of his legendary co-commentator when it comes to cutting through the crowds and police lines. The road curved, but it was nothing to concern one's self with. Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeoghegan) March 25, 2019. But Mark Cavendish says no: what the track does is make you think fast, it makes you think within a very tight set of circumstances. Minutes later, Sean Kelly points out that Padun is 'not getting around the corners well not comfortable whatsoever on the descent'. or maybe you,re a relative ?? The demands of media and multimedia these days make it more of a serious problem. CK:Ive been doing bike races live and on-site since 1996. Kittel was completely shocked, and has been getting more and more upset as this Tour has gone on. Joe Robinson. Cookies help us deliver our services. All of that is avoidable if you have the right distance and the right protocol in place. He was hinting today that he would be commentating on Paris-Roubaix (just after he said that Froome was 'over-raced' this year), so I'd be grateful if as many people as possible could comment/vote before it is too late: Mmmmm, unfortunately, the suggested replacement is just as clueless, just quieter. I talk about the same stuff, except Im making it up. Most races have one unit but the Tour de France has four double-decker units. Also, I would say many of his criticisms are unfair and/or cruel. Jason Kenny has recounted to the BBC the near miss he and his infant son Albie encountered while out cycling last month. A new bike is coming very soon! pic.twitter.com/MaRgbFKTet, The Ella Roberta Family Foundation (@rosamund_ElsFdn) March 25, 2019, @emmachamberlain at her soul cycling class. It is not so bad if they are in front because the rider can tell the motorbike to go away, but if it is trailing the rider and the rider comes off, there is always the possibility of impact. Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis, says Carlton Kirby, a principal commentator for Eurosports cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. As a small example, he started talking to Magnus Backstedt about tyre widths the other day ("weren't you the 27 mm guy?") 2.4K views, 20 likes, 3 loves, 5 comments, 3 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Eurosport: "The pictures were all over the news. Thus concentrating becomes a difficult job for a commentator. While folk littering with gel wrappers is no doubt annoying, is it really up there with fly-tipping? It is crazy. Get rid. He threw the toys out of the pram because his head is scrambled by these defeats. Ill be making notes when Sean Kellys driving, which can be a difficult thing! He's ruining the sport I love - I avoid many races purely because he's the commentator. And it is at that point, Cav comes out of the shadows to mug him at the line. But, Kirby has to do that, without fail. You take yourself to the studio, call up your procyclingstats.com, do your research online. For mine, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. Marcel Kittel gesticulates as Mark Cavendish wins stage 14 of the Tour de France ahead of Peter Sagan, Stage six finish: Cavendish edges Kittel again in thrilling finale, WATCH: Moment Cavendish finds out he has won. He further says, "In tennis, you never talk through a point because the crowd doesn't. Where is the central body that has its own rules of discipline and rules of engagement that respect distance protocol and passing protocol under the race director? Juan Antonio Flecha and Johnny Hoogerland were sent into barbed wire on the Tour de France because the France TV van was about to hit a tree having a run out of road, but took the softer option of the riders. There are many great cycling commentators around at the moment, Im afraid Kirby isnt one of them. Ill ring someone up on-site to talk to them. Kirby is not uncomfortable with the spurt of social media and the exponential increase of criticism that has gone alongside with it. The Wanty-GroupeGobert rider was air lifted to hospital after the crash yesterday, but thankfully it seems like he's in a stable condition. The very aspect of commentating that requires filling the gaps spanning hours of no action is the reason. Live blog: "outrageous claims" - Tao Geoghegan Hart lays into Eurosport commentator Carlton Kirby, cyclists blamed for countryside litter - Twitter responds, Colnago e-bike, Jason Kenny, Jeremy Vine on close-passes, TdY teams, Peloton baby + more. I've just discovered, after following a tweet that Orla Chennaoui had re-tweeted, that the esteemed Mr Kirby has blocked me on Twitter. Riders who perhaps finished tenth on a day will be livid that we didnt eulogise about them, but Im sorry, I was talking about the person who finished first. The major problem with this is that you cannot follow a race he is commentating on unless you are watching it - i.e. Youre at the finish line, essentially watching the TV albeit with extra screens.. Even once the race itself is over, and the post-analysis is done, theres a second race to get away from the finish line. Yeah he does. Once they pass by, they have to repass the peloton to get the shots they want later on. Valverde gets it very, very wrong!" exclaimed . Advertising, commercial: sales [at] road.cc Id love to see this Eurosport commentator substantiate even 1% of the outrageous claims he makes. Nobody but nobody doesnt sprint for 5th at the end of a Monument. There are already calls for a convening of UCI protocol committee so they can start to get some proper rules together about it. 26/8/22: Stage 6 of the Vuelta, Kirby informs us (clearly based on nothing) that Mark Padun is 'a master' at descending in the wet (at that precise moment, Padun is descending very gingerly, taking pretty poor lines). He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. He also never tells you who the riders on screen are - and if he does, he's usually wrong. One thing Ive always been able to do is, I believe, see a very wide picture and a lot of different movement, and call those fast and accurately. It means sometimes were not actually commentating from the finish line because the Tour de France is so huge theres about 8,000 people attached to the Tour. You must log in or register to reply here. 1/9/22 4.2km to go, Stage 12 Vuelta a Espana: the riders are going uphill.Kirby: as they get to this step, but it doesnt last long, its like your mums old step, give it a polish, give it a clean and then a clean pair of heels to everybody else. i like the stuff the two GCN guys do, is it dan Loyd and Matt Stephens? Hes done it four times, and I think he might want to do it again on the Champs-lyses. I don't think much does get through to him, I really wish it did. I am having this problem too. The Kirby CODEC will also be called into action as his followers on Twitter will know. Kittel threw his arms up in the air, and lost not only first place, but second, third and fourth..winding up in fifth because of his complaints. If you don't like something, how else can you change it - by saying nothing? Win! His cycling life began during his students days, when he cobbled togethera few hundred quidoff the back of a hard winter selling hats (long story) and bought hisfirst road bike - a Trek 1.1 that was quickly relegated to winter steed, before it was sadlypinched a few years later. You have your usual office equipment, coffee machine, and sandwich machine. Ive now just watched the end of Milan-Sanremo again: Aranburu wasnt in the first group behind Morhoric, so he literally couldnt have come higher than 10th. I don't know the guy but I wish in netherlands we would do it with mart smeets, danny nelissen and herbert dijkstra, who are complete idiots. Discovery through its international sports unit, it operates two main channels Eurosport 1 and Eurosport 2 across most of its territories, and streams on Discovery+, which superseded Eurosport Player. He clearly thinks he's the star of the show. It is all clearly not set in stone at the moment, and I hope that I'm not going to have some sharp intake of breath moments on commentary just because bikes are needlessly endangering the lives of cyclists. So many other cycling commentators on Eurosport. Maybe it's because he doesn't ride a bike himself? Being a commentator is all about improvisation and Kirby knows this quite well considering his huge range of experience. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. #cycling @carltonkirby whatsonreading.com Carlton Kirby True Tales of the Tour de France | What's On Reading All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week. It easy to forget that before this tour Mark Cavendish, the greatest of all great sprinters, had never beaten Marcel Kittel in a head-to-head. Kirby is a shockingly bad commentator, but Harmon is not much better. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. Cavendish swept to his second win at the Tour of Turkey with another . See the recording of the last Carlton Kirby Zoomcast hereEnjoy our vintage/summer Parisian Spotify playlist (plus Little Italy by Stephen Bishop, not French, don't write in) hereSee Carlton's Pure invention; based on nothing. Twaddle. And I said: Because I asked him! I asked him at breakfast, because when youre on-site, you can talk to the riders. 2008present unless otherwise stated. You have to say who they are, where they are on the road, what colour theyre in and call the tactics and often all within 30-45 seconds of sheer hell and manic action. 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Can you imagine Paris-Roubaix with Kirby commentating? Commentating during the 2022 Ronde with 222km to go, Kirby says: Aranburu could have finished as high as 5th in Milan-Sanremo, but didnt think it was worth his while so he eased off at the end and came in 13th. Carlton Kirby Kirby is the most marmite commentator there is. Plus security bikes, plus rolling paramedics. It was a dreadfully high price to pay in my opinion to high but the suffering couldnt go on. There have always been deaths since the early 1900s from vehicle-related incidents. Let us know what you think in the comments. Theres no doubt about it, the most difficult thing to do is cover nothing, he says. Terms and conditions of use. 27/8/22: Stage 7 of the Vuelta, Herrada wins the sprint and has his arm in the air in celebration. The concern of course is how much is this going to take out of him before he begins preparations for the Olympic Games next month? This is why he often cracks jokes and laughs heartily. And within the second group, he sprints hard, coming 13th overall. I think there seems to be a bad feeling against cyclists and its really strange because theyre only people, he continued. Hence, To be qualified to fill up that huge amount of time is, quite naturally, a daunting job. and clearly was totally clueless. Create a personalized feed and bookmark your favorites. Like in any other sports, being a cycling commentator for a broadcast has its own perks & lows. I can't understand why Eurosport need to use him when they gave at least four other knowledgeable commentators, even without Harmon. He's fine when it's all action but flounders when it's a longer stage. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Yep, thats my pick. After a long journeyback to the hotel, often punctuated by Kelly taking media calls especially on the stages he himself would have thrived on during his career its then a debrief over dinner and back to bed for a seven-hour sleep and restarting the process again the next day. Best known for his work on Eurosport, his voice has also appeared on BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Motors TV, Cycling TV, Speed Channel USA, ABC Australia, SABC South Africa, Canal Plus France, Canal France International and more. It is irretrievable. "In tennis you never talk through a point because the crowd don't. In certain sports, you have to respect the action, and then you comment on it. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirbys voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosports racecoverage. Kittel moves first into Cavendish, who follows the white line. Kirby has more than two decades as a. This year alone, we had a Sky rider getting his elbow clipped by a security vehicle when he went for a gap when none existed. But, being in the studio means there is a considerable loss of interaction. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. https://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/1698 ant-drivel, http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85131. And to be honest, most of us are scared of losing Carlton Kirkby in case Ant McCrossan takes his place. Conversely, a Carlton Kirby Fan Club exists for those who love the cycling commentator. Helen Blackman (@HelenBlackman) March 24, 2019. Le point sur la situation de Yoann Offredo. Carlton Kirby As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carlton's Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. For no reason. UPDATE: New online Zoomcast show, July 16, click through for tickets. I usually increase the pace especially on a sprint day to match the peloton, Kirby admits. That is in fact my main Friday occupation. There is no discussion or debate, just chatter, articles, and just that. I like him. Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVam's overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" Eurosport commentator. And he has outthought Marcel Kittel here. I realise that commentating on a race involving nearly 200 riders is challenging, but since 1986 I have always been able to follow what is going on thanks to the commentary. CK: You need the details. And anybody who has watched one unfold on TV will recognise the frantic speed of the commentary as the race reaches its climax. At least he can string a sentence together and he seems to bring good comments out of Backstedt. And this sort of meaningless, demented jabber is not at all unusual I could have chosen many examples just from today. Log in or register to join the conversation. Eurosport will never get rid of Carlton Kirby, he receives so much fan-mail that it will far out way any negative feedback they get from him. He suddenly realises how to beat Kittel, working out the formula to finish first. Exactly - and if you had any insight into professional riding and experience actually being a pro like Sean Kelly or Rob Hayles - you wouldnt struggle to find commentary. OK. And then, we wait. -"Looks like shit. A piece of the petition has gained over 542 signatures demanding the removal of Carlton Kirby from Eurosports, citing Unnecessary Screaming, Terrible Jokes as one of the biggest downsides. Discovery company. ADDITIONAL: 13/4/21 - Some have said that this petition is 'cruel', but if you're in the public eye then you are open to criticism of your professional abilities - or are we now not allowed to criticise the abilities of authors, actors, sports people, musicians, etc.? Its Kirbys cheat sheetfor every stage in the race, with details of the top finishers, jersey wearers, men in the breakaway and so on. VN:Whats it like calling a race from back home at the studio? We had a heated debate about the incident and then the person drove away. Over 3,200 worth of amazing prizes from Pacenti Cycle Design and Saint Piran, including some stunning carbon wheels! There used to be a 35 metre rule which seems to be flouted these days. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carltons Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. You are as ill informed as Kirby. But he's British and that's all that matters to Kirby. Eurosport is transmitting the same amount of races as any standard european tv channel - go to Italy where it is their number 2 sport next to football - they dont struggle for professional sports commentators. He came off the corner leading, it was a right hand to the finish in Villars-les-Dombes. Theres an awful lot of distractions to keep on top of, so if you happen to be looking at your notes when somebody has a moment and you dont see it, its not your fault., Kirby laughs. When we drive to the finish well usually get on the course, because were badged up to do it, and then make notes. How much longer do the cycling public have to suffer the idiotic commentary from Carlton Kirby ?? Ive gotten drunk on the Galibier and been evacuated off the Galibier. Rob Hatch is apparently also good but he doesnt do very much that I've seen. The man, the myth, the chosen son. I can get caught out, particularly if theres a crash in the last three kilometres, because that can animate the tempo even more and I have to keep something in reserve for the sprint finish. Having spent over 25 years in the field, he has seen a lot, as many other countless commentators have seen. One of the most adaptable voices on British Television, as can be seen from hisworking synopsis, Carltons range is wide. Eurosport's commentator Carlton Kirby has called hundreds of races throughout his career, both on-site and from the studio. The youngsters were congratulated by the force on Twitter, as they helped chase down a thief who had stolen over 300 worth of goods. Don't miss a moment from Paris-Roubaix and Unbound Gravel, to the Giro dItalia, Tour de France, Vuelta a Espaa, and everything in between when you Are you sure? That is the way it appears. So, what is Scottish Cycling / British Cycling doing about this? It's their commentators or silence. You also have picture breakdowns, sometimes audio breakdowns so weve got all that going on and we havent even got on to the racing yet!. Also, Kirby criticises riders in almost every race. How do you call one of the biggest sporting events on the planet? More often than not they slip into commentary which is at best nationalistic, and at worst xenophobic. Its quite nice at the Tour de France that we have a roadbook and a history book of everything were going through. And hes trying to improve them. We get to see our own output with our team interviewing the riders. You have a sound wall battle, where theyre shoving one way and were shoving the other while trying to sound calm and interesting on the commentary when actually what you want to do is knock someone out! That doesnt portend his job has not become a whole lot harder. 14 Aug 2020. At dinner, you gather around the table and argue the hell out of it, and thats a big thing. "Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis," says Carlton Kirby, principal commentator for Eurosport's cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. Some of which have been admitted, some of which weren't. Personally I think Harmon and Brian Smith are the best team. But there are always other lines to cross, and he just loves collecting these plaudits and the deserved success coming his way is just brilliant. Thomas De Gendt launched a solo attack from the break with 60 kilometres remaining of todays opening stage of the Volta a Catalunya, covering 163 kilometres and starting and finishing in Calella and the Lotto-Soudal rider now finds himself with a lead of almost three minutes on his rivals. After moving to 30 Tour de France stage wins with four rousing victories that has shattered Marcel Kittel on this year's Tour, Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby tells Desmond Kane why he . and apologises to those who don't. 00:04:00, 29/05/2020 at 08:52 Related That should have been alarm bells for everyone. Antoine Demoitie tragically died after being hit by a motorbike. You are calling the race as you see it on the screen. From dealing with the never-ending frenzy of action, and incessant radio announcements, to having to tackle the director. Mark is already the greatest sprinter there has ever been. The schedule and time duration work differently for every sport. James and Joe catch up with the chosen son of cycling commentary, Carlton Kirby. I think you need to be a specialist to be a cycling commentator, yet he covers several sports on Eurosport. Its a whole other much more positive view of commentators as a whole. With very little data being sent to them, and some pretty bad camerawork they have made a good fist of the event in Spain. "Oh! Next time you watch, ask yourself how many of his critiques are aimed against non-Anglophone riders. JavaScript is disabled. If it goes on for two or three years, then people will notice because the freshness of what is in our heads will ebb. Kittel is still the fastest guy out there, but when he turns on the taps there is going to be a point when his maximum capacity starts to diminish. The Tour forces us to have dinner. In the mountains, when you have say four significant peaks to climb, the day tells itself and often all you have to do is call it as it happens. Carlton Kirby: No matter if youre in a mobile unit at the finish, or in a studio with air conditioning and a coffee machine, youre doing the same thing, the view out the window is just different. Info-wise, being on-site is amazing.. If she wins so does everyone else. I could paint the Galibier and Ventoux and even some of the rarer mountains by memory. To show no fear is the best skill of all. Those are definitely the days when you earn your corn. If youve watched Eurosport cycling, you'll know.